Age-Graded Tables getting an expedited redo, WMA says
Just when we’re getting used to the 2006 Age-Graded Tables, work is under way on the 2010 tables, says World Masters Athletics. WMA Prez Monty Hacker reports: “WMA has decided to accelerate its periodic modification process of the Age Grading Tables to remove various deficiencies that have developed over several years as a result of new statistical information. Vice President Stadia, Rex Harvey, after extensive research with experts on the subject and review during the recent Stadia Committee meeting, has announced to solicit assistance to assure timely completion of the modification for final review and approval by Council during its next regular council meeting at the Lahti championships in July 2009, and implementation as of the next possible date, May 1, 2010.” This apparently reflects problems reported in the WMA tables last year. The tables have been available on the Web for a few years, but haven’t been published in booklet form yet. Oh well. Wait till 2010.
Age Graded Tables finally arrive! And we have ’em
WMA veep Rex Harvey today sent me this Microsoft Excel file (updated 5/18/06 to fix M55 shot factor) containing the Age Graded Tables — factors for multiplying your times or distances to see how they compare with marks in the “Open Class” (generally 20- to 30-year-olds) or any other age group. Officially, these tables are used only for age-grading the multi-events (decathlon, heptathlon, pentathlon, etc.) in the masters world championships. Unofficially, they decide winners in road races, handicap track sprints and a zillion other events — sometimes with cash at stake. So this is big. And long overdue.
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Dexter McCloud - May 4, 2006
I guess I’m not as smart as I’d like to think I am…I can’t figure out this table. Can someone help me? Give me an example of how you would determine the proper percentage based on performance.
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David E. Ortman - May 3, 2006
If the tables keep “tightening” up, by the time the 2050 tables are out, none of my marks will score much above 50% (just kidding). But at this point I definately prefer the 1989 version:
100m 06 94 89
M40(11.76) 87.2% 87.2% 88.2%
M50 (12.1) 90.7% 90.6% 90.0%(better)
400m
M40(52.9) 87.3% 87.8% 88.9%
M50(55.5) 89.2% 90.9% 91.6%
Long Jump
M40(6.02) 74.7% 75.7% 76.1%
M50(5.87) 82.3% 84.5% 83.8% -
mcgato - May 4, 2006
Not an expert, but here is how I think it is done:
OC=Row 2, which is current world’s best
AgeFact=Factor from big table for given age of athlete
Perf=Performance to be graded
%Perf=Percent performance mark seen in results
%Perf=OC/(Perf*AgeFact)
Example:
A 57 year old male recently ran 17:14 for a 5K road race.
OC=774
AgeFact=0.8254
Perf=17:14 or 1034 seconds
%Perf=774/(1034*0.8254)=0.9069 –> 90.7% -
arthur thomson - August 21, 2006
The 50km walk figures for the older age groups are just plain daft. All of Gerhardt Weidner’s times are widely regarded as legendary. (He set a REAL world record at M40). In particular his M60 time of 4h23m29s is regarded as truly exceptional, yet it scores only 95.25% on the new tables. Similarly James Grimwade’s M75 time of 5h19m34s, also regarded as legendary, scores only 93.3%. Scoring 100% in the M65/M70 range calls for breaking the current World Records by nearly an hour!! How in the world is this justified? Nobody has got anywhere near 100% over M45.
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Carroll B. Merriman - December 2, 2009
Good post mate!! Keep ’em flowing!
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chris tittle western australia - April 19, 2010
thanks a million,after our australian masters nationals at easter trying to get a source how to work out my standing in the world to no evail. how get i now get hold of one of this scoring copies you mentioned in your last text.could you kindly reply.Thanks again chris M 80 throw pentathlion.
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Age-Graded Tables should get June rollout
Talked to Rex Harvey today after exchanging email with Norm Green, two masters officials involved in the “2002” redo of the hallowed Age-Graded Tables. The bottom line: The finished tables will go to National Masters News by mid-June, and NMN publisher Suzy Hess promises she’ll get the booklets distributed with great dispatch. The delay I discussed a few days ago has been resolved.
Age-Graded Tables delayed by LDR dispute
Nearly four months ago, I posted my findings on why the new Age-Graded Tables had been delayed. At the time, the tables (aka Magic Decoder Ring of masters track) were supposedly weeks away from being sent to National Masters News for publication. But they still haven’t been disseminated. Why? Let AGT honcho Rex Harvey explain.
Age-Graded Tables: tanned, rested and ready, eventually
Rex Harvey is used to multi-tasking. After all, he once excelled at the decathlon. (He competed in the 1976 Olympic Trials and in 1991 set a still-standing world M45 age-group record in the 10-event grind.) But his ability to juggle chores was no match for a couple criminals at the Holiday Inn Express in Long Island, New York. Ready to fly home to Cleveland from a business trip on May 6, 2003, Harvey was checking out at the airport motel when he asked someone to keep an eye on his luggage.
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I saw older discussions about the age gradings. To be honest: the last WMA tables are not based on 5-year records but 1-year records, are far as they are known. I know this because my high jump data were used by Rex.
So, where’s our update from the July 2009 meeting?
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