Dang unbanked track! Shaheed barely misses M60 WR for 1500
On the final day of Kamloops, Nolan Shaheed of Pasadena gave it his best shot yesterday. He won the M60 1500 but missed the listed world record by four-tenths of a second. Had the 200-meter track been banked, he would have crushed the WR of 4:36.52 by France’s Raymond Zembri in 2009. Better luck was had by M90 Orville Rogers of Dallas, who ran 10:11.48 to erase the listed American age-group record of 14:34.2 by Herb Kirk in 1987 — a mark that should have been wiped from the books in 2008. That’s when Orville ran an M90 indoor mile world record of 9:56.58 at Boston nationals. I’m no math genius, but I think if Orville ran 9:56 for the mile, his 1500-meter time that day had to be better than 14:34.2. Thank goodness he finally buried Herb’s mark in Canada. Almost as ridiculous were the relays at ‘Loops — all 4x200s.
Bruce McBarnette with his latest world meet gold. Needed only three jumps to earn M50 high jump title at 1.80, and this was his only event at Kamloops. Sweet. (Photo from Bruce press release)
The United States won nine golds — some with older folks dropping down to younger age groups, such as three M50s going in the M45 race. Team Manager Phil Greenwald caught everyone’s splits and they are posted here. Phil Raschker ended up with 10 medals.
From Kamloops site:
Day 6 — Saturday, March 6
The 2010 WMA World Masters Indoor Athletics Championships came to a close Saturday after a sixth straight day of amazing and inspirational competition at the Tournament Capital Centre.Over and over, Kamloops spectators have commented about what positive role models the 1,400 athletes who gathered here have been — not just to the youth who have come out to watch, but to the adults in the crowd as well. Every athlete who took part has been inspirational just by having the courage to get out there, and by having the commitment to live active, healthy lifestyles.
Even more inspirational are those who not only get out and do it, but do it well.
There have been several multi-medal winning athletes this week. Several have stood atop the podium on more than one occasion. Olga Kotelko of West Vancouver, B.C., finished her week with 10 gold medals and eight world records in the women’s 90 age group. On Saturday, Kotelko chose not to compete in the 400m Dash. Instead, she concentrated on the 4x200m relay — which she and teammates Louise Sorensen, Hildegaard Buschhaus and Leona Smith won in a newly established world-record time of 4:15.33.
Horst Albrecht of Germany also had a golden week, winning seven times in the M85 age group. The final victory came Saturday when he won the Triple Jump with a leap of 6.46m.
Phil Raschker led the American team with seven gold, two silver and one bronze in the W60 age group. She capped her week Saturday with a championship run in the 400m, crossing the line in 75.60. Then, she joined Joan McMullan, Mary Trotto and Brenda Matthews in winning bronze in the 4x200m relay in a time of 2:19.67.
Marie Kay of Australia finished with five gold medals in the W50, the last one coming Saturday when she won the 400m in a time of 62.96. Fellow countryman Peter Crombie took home three medals in the M65, two gold and one silver — the latter coming when he was second in the 400m with a time of 62.36.
Ugo Sansonetti of Italy set his second world record of the meet when he captured gold in the M90 400m Dash. Sansonetti crossed the line in 1:46.78, bettering the time of 1:48.33 set by Herbert Liedtke of Sweden. Sansonetti also set a world record in winning the 200m earlier this week.
Nolan Shaheed of the United States just missed setting a world record in the M60 1,500m. Shaheed easily won the race with a time of 4:36.92. That was just four-tenths off the 4:36.52 owned by Raymond Zembri of France.
For Great Britain’s William Gentleman, the true victory was actually making it to the start line. Gentleman won gold medals this week in M70 Hammer and Weight Throw. The latter came Saturday, when he threw 16.68m. This was Gentleman’s first competition after suffering a stroke.
Be sure to check the full event results and the final medal count, both available on the homepage of the kamloops2010masters.com website.
Many more things to say about Kamloops. (See complete results for the whole meet. ) Stay tuned.
13 Responses
Ken, or anyone,
How much faster is a banked 200m track verses a 200m flat track? Related to that, how much faster (assuming good weather conditions)is an outdoor track than a 200m flat indoor track?
Rob
Folks who ran at Kamloops told me they had to slow down as they went into the turns during Kamloops sprints, especially from two inside lanes. That couldn’t have helped.
Rob. I was not at Kamloops so do not know the answer to the banked verses unbanked 200m track.
But as to the banked track and the inside lanes. Just on my personal experience, I would say running on the inside lane of a banked indoor 200m will give me a result that is 0.5 sec worse than running on the outside lane. Maybe that +0.5 sec “worse” applies to outdoor 200m too.
I also say that my indoor 400m time because of the curves will one whole second worse than my outdoor 400m time, all other things remaining the same. That is, my indoor 400m time is actually “worth” more -1.0 sec better in comparision with my outdoor 400m.
Mind you, because of summer allergies I enjoy indoor meets more. I like the lack of wind (and pollen!) and to contradict myself, I like having people in front of me at the start (i.e. being on an inside lane!).
Be interesting to hear other people’s views on banked and Kamloops unbanked 200m indoor tracks.
Track surface in Kamloops is a great track for training as it was soft, but not good for running fast times.
What I noticed was that runners were breaking on the curves, due to the tight turns. I had the opportunity to run the 4×200 and I must say it was quite difficult. I am not a good turn runner outdoors, so it only made it more difficult to maintain any speed on the tight curves at Kamloops.
Hopefully! Nolan Shaheed will go to Boston. If he does the record is gone. I would say anyone who came close to breaking any records should go to Boston as the track surface is condusive for running fast times.
See everyone on Boston!
THANK YOU KAMLOOPS, IT WAS FANTASTIC.!!!!
I read your blog all the time and cant help but notice your American bias. If you read your postings it seems you have alot of negative things to say about the Kamloops meet but nothing good. Ken did you attend the meet? Friends of mine that attended and competed at the meet had high praise for the meet and the organizers. Kamloops was a brilliant selction that gave people the opportunity to attend what was an incredible Olympic Games as well as compete in the Masters World Championships. The thing you forget to mention is the friendly people you will find in Canada. That is what makes something world class not the banking of a track.
My two cents: Officials were very accommodating…facility wasn’t too bad…food was great…and the Kamloops people are the friendliest in the world…Thanks Kamloops for a wonderful experience.
The experience at Kamloops was fantastic. The people, the officials, the overall venue were great. The track surface and design was not conducive for fast times. Regardless, I had a wonderful trip and am very glad I went.
I had a great time in Kamloops. The meet was well organized and everyone was helpful. The track was not that great but I made the best of it and am very pleased with the results. Would have loved to have faster times, but that was not possible with the very very tight turns and soft surface. Great experience and really happy I went.
I am glad to hear so many of you had a great time in Kamloops. Greg I had the pleasure to compete in the Triple Jump with you at the World Masters Games in Edmonton and I was so impressed by your attitude and humility. Here you are jumping in the 13 meter range and I was jumping 10 meters something yet you encouraged and cheered for me and treated me like an equal. I was unable to attend the medal presentation because I was warming up for another event so my kids stood on the podium for me and afterwards they got you to autograph my medal. They were so excited and I have the picture of them standing on the top of the podium with you. You are a great role model for all athletes young and old.
Jack Smyth was Canada’s amateur athlete of the year 1958(I believe was the year). We were teammates at U. of Houston. Smitty was hitting the TJ in the mid/high 50 feet mark which was something in those halcyon days. I weighed 120 at age 26 and to Smitty I was “Shadow”. He was from Winnepeg..Winiepeg..er..uh..central Canada. He was a special cat. I’d give anything to find him after 51 years. Any ideas?? Jerry
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