WR in W75 shot by 18 feet? Results posted for Huntsman Games
The Huntsman World Senior Games track meet wrapped up Wednesday in St. George, Utah, and results have been graciously shared by Judie Pesznecker. One stuck out as Beamonesque, but I doubt its accuracy. W75 Ingeborg Siegers of Germany is credited with a 2-kilo shot mark Monday of 16.63 meters (54-6 1/2), or 18 feet better than the listed WR of 11.10 (36-5) by Evaun Williams and nearly twice as far as the runner-up. [Thursday update: Judie says she looked at a later report of the shot put and it shows Ingeborg Siegers with a 6.63m shot and in 6th place. “I’ve made that change on our website,” she writes.]. Also, we see a first-place tie in the M80 shot of 10.02 meters (32-10 1/2) by Melvin Heath and Leonard Rosen. So neither had a second throw to break the tie? I don’t have my PDF-combining software with me at the moment, so here are the files separately for all three days: Monday field events and Monday track events, Tuesday field events and Tuesday track events and Wednesday field events and Wednesday track events. Sorry for the hassle. Any notable marks I’m missing?
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Well, Herb Wilkinson (M90) won five gold medals at the Huntsman meet: Shot, Discus, Javelin, High Jump, and Standing Long Jump. That seems pretty impressive!
Yes, something is missing – wind gauge readings. All the LJ/TJ results and a batch of the Tuesday’s sprints show a NWI.
I’m in favor of an entry fee refund if a meet can’t provide wind gauge readings.
I know the W75 shot result is an error. Elsbeth Padilla actually won it.
Dave:
I did long jump at the Huntsman Games and a wind gauge was present.
THere was also a wind gauge on the track.
So I don’t know why the results don’t indicate wind gauge measurements.
I did long jump, triple jump, 100m and 200m and the
wind gauges were at each event.
Huntsman lady says W75 shot result was a typo. Mark was 6.63, not 16.63 meters.
Nice photos here:
http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2014/10/08/athletes-compete-set-records-huntsman-senior-games-track-event/#.VDeDCWt5mSM
Response to #4 and #5. There is plenty of empirical evidence to demonstrate that the presence of wind gauges is not proof of the existence of actual wind readings, or that wind gauge readings, if taken, were ever entered into the system.
An athlete can not monitor the workings of a wind gauge while sprinting or hurdling, but during the LJ/TJ it is prudent to self-monitor after every jump and ask what the wind gauge registered.
Ken,
I set a new M65-69 American record in the LJ on Monday. 5.38M, bettering Dick Richards mark of 5.35 set some 25 years ago. It was a satisfying jump as I put all of the elements together. There was a wind gauge on all jumps. I did note that the only wind was a very slight breeze coming from the south. The LJ runway runs west to east, so there was no trailing wind. It was definitely a legal jump. The officials measured with a steel tape and completed the paperwork. Here’s hoping that it makes it through all the hoops.
Roger, that is incredibly awesome. You are a super athlete and person. Congratulations!
Wind gauges were at the long and triple jumps and the readings were called out to the distance clerks after every jump. They are reported in the results for the 100 meter and 200 meter, though they did not get into the result reports for the horizontal jumps.
Winds were very low throughout the three day meet, with only one reported value as high as 2 mph.
If I may move the focus from perceived negative concerns to a more positive vein, let me say that the competition and performance levels were outstanding throughout the meet.
For example, I competed in the running and jumping events in the 75-79 men age group. For the running and jumping events in which the USATF Masters Rankings has data, performances at Huntsman surpassed the prior number one 2014 ranking for three events (long jump, triple jump, and 3000 meter race) and placed one, two, or three athletes in the top five of the rankings in all nine events. (This was achieved on a rather old and hard surface high school track that is not conducive to fast times.)
It was certainly the highest level of competition I have faced in any meet other than the USATF National Championships and in several events was at an even higher level.
Huntsman is also a fun meet. They treat the athletes better than at any other meet that I have attended — from the entry process to the opening ceremonies, the refreshments during the meet, the free medical screening, putting one’s results on the back of the medals, everything right through to the end of the meet. Have you ever seen another meet where you can have your entry fees (less $25) refunded up until a week before the meet if you are unable to attend?
I will return again — wind gauge report or not.
In my response #5, I should have added that in fact, the wind readings were called out after each jump in both the long and the triple jumps. It was a wonderful meet and I agree with #11 that we athletes were treated in a wonderful way by providing refreshments such as oranges, bananas and apples, all cut and pealed. The medals were presented in a very timely manner with the tags providing all information about the event. I will go back next year for the fifth time. Thanks to all officials and volunteers!
Thank you for the kind words Liz. I have enormous respect for you as an athlete as well. By the way, I have taken your advice on going to 7 steps to the first hurdle. Took a little work, but I got there. I was not able to hurdle this year due to an injury, but look forward to applying the new approach at Indoors.
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