Should masters be allowed to take testosterone under a TUE?

This is what's T-ing everyone off.

This is what’s T-ing everyone off.

USATF Masters T&F national Chairman Gary Snyder replied Friday to my query on the Greg Pizza HRT case. Gary wrote: “After reading NMN, Times and MTF, it once again becomes apparent there is a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding regarding banned ‘stuff.’ I would support a change, but any change must be across the board for all sports — not just T&F — and must be at the WADA level, not just USADA. Way past my grade level. If someone wants to champion the cause, which would take years, I’d support them as best I could.” Gary nails the problem. USADA takes its cues from WADA (the way USATF masters has to toe the WMA line). So making masters an exception to anti-doping protocols is a heavy lift. But Greg would like sanity in the TUE process. He likely wouldn’t have gotten a TUE for testosterone before or after the fact. But recreational TUEs need to be better defined. Meanwhile, take our poll:

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January 29, 2016

51 Responses

  1. tb - January 29, 2016

    Testosterone and the other anabolic steroids do improve quality of life. Should we really limit the TUEs to just us?

  2. A Master's Runner - January 30, 2016

    FORM YOUR OWN ASSOCIATION. YOU DO NOT NEED THE ORGANIZATION OFFERED BY USATF. NOTHING AND NOBODY IS STOPPING YOU FROM ENGAGING IN YOUR CHOSEN ACTIVITY, BE IT TRAINING, COMPETING, SOCIALIZING, OR ALL OF THEM COMBINED.

    It’s as simple as that. Those of you who advocate for androgen use, etc. write the whiniest posts I’ve ever read. Waaaah, my knee hurts. Waaah, I’m tired. Waaah, I can’t concentrate. Waaah, my back hurts. Waaah, it’s tough to get up in the morning. Waaah, I have hot flashes. Waaah, I have cold flashes. Waaah, I’m crying and I don’t know why. Waaah, I’m having a bad hair day. Waaah, I can’t break 4:00 anymore. Waaah, my hair’s not as thick and lustrous as it used to be. Waaah I haven’t had a natural erection in years. Waaah I can’t orgasm anymore.

    Get over yourselves. It’s called life. If you want to do drugs to “improve” yours, go right ahead–but don’t expect to be allowed to compete in USATF while doing it, or to be welcomed by those who aren’t using. And above all, don’t WHINE about it.

  3. Bill Murray - January 30, 2016

    I recently read a post which made sense to me. So I will take their thoughts further. Suppose we let athletes who take PED’s for ANY reason, compete in a special category. They would be ineligible for records and ineligible for drug testing. They could continue to train and compete without disclosing their privacy details. If their medical condition changes, at some point, they could compete again legally, according to WADA & USADA guidelines. They could then switch back from their special category to regular competition. USADA would be aware of these individuals and they would likely be targets when they return to regular competition. It would allow people like Stefan to continue training and competing at a high level without the attached stigma.

  4. Bert Bergen - January 30, 2016

    The anonymous runner again emerges from his secret dark hole to critic the world and than slink away into hiding .

  5. Ray Cooper - January 30, 2016

    What’s the difference between being prescribed testosterone or any drug to maintain a “normal” range and using a prosthetic to walk or run?

    A deficiency of either compromises our being able to function well.

    Am I late to the party on this?

  6. Max Speed - January 30, 2016

    As I stated before in a different post, I am all for separating a TUE athlete or PED user from a non TUE athlete or non PED user in the same race.

    Wouldn’t it be great to know or at least believe that when an athlete does something extraordinary that it was “real”. Not tainted by being a TUE athlete or a former TUE athlete or an on again off again user of whatever or anything else? Sure it would.

    My guess is if we did go to a “declaration or separation” system that many top level athletes would choose not to compete if their accomplishments were not going to be recognized because they need a certain banned drug to maintain good health. Sad but true. Still, I think it is the only way to make things fair in my opinion.

    Again, check your ego at the door, make your declaration (user,non user)…race…feel good…smile.

  7. Brian Coushay - January 30, 2016

    No Way should individuals be able to compete with a TUE for testosterone

  8. Steve Kemp - January 30, 2016

    So, Bill (comment #3)…you are saying that HgH’ers would just compete against other HgH’ers? and other PED users? Since you are saying that this new category isn’t eligible for drug testing, then it would have to strictly be on the honor system to voluntarily tell the governing bodies of the sport they are taking PED’s? I am wondering how honest everyone would be about that.

  9. Mike Walker - January 30, 2016

    Steve #8, That is a good question. Since a percentage of masters athletes are intentionally cheating now, I doubt that that they would suddenly become honest. Because it is so difficult to set acceptable limits given the wide range of ages and health issues in masters competitors, I think that to work, masters track would have to be “open” – take anything that you want. Is that desirable?

  10. Jon Stone - January 31, 2016

    I thought that we were all training hard so that we could be happy, healthy, and not dependent on prescription medications. Also, none of the posts here mention the litany of side effects that testosterone use/abuse can cause or contribute to…

    testicular atrophy
    erectile dysfunction
    prostate issues (BPH &cancer)
    increased LDL
    heart wall thickening
    heart enlargement
    stroke
    polycythemia
    acne
    sebaceous cysts
    body hair changes (too much and/or too little)

    Finally, no mention of androgen receptors. Some people with low-T or other hormone deficiencies are functionally healthy because their androgen receptors have adapted to lower levels and become more sensitive. This scenario is why SERMS & SARMS are banned PED’s.

  11. A Master's Runner - January 31, 2016

    Bert, I suppose if you cannot successfully address the issue, then you go after the commenter.

    Some good, thoughtful posts in this thread, especially IMO Jon’s.

  12. Anonymous - January 31, 2016

    “If you cannot successfully address the issue, then you go after the commenter.” A Master’s Runner, after reading your post (#2) I say that’s the pot calling the kettle black.

  13. Don Schaefer - January 31, 2016

    First: lets drop the word cheat out of this discussion. Greg does not want to elevate his levels to Superhuman levels, he simply wants to be at a normal level ( and yes that is certainly doable in this day and age of medical science) . I am not sure where the idea came from that we should be treated the same as Elite level athletes. The very best male & female Masters cant beat 12 year olds. As fantastic as the genetically gifted in our sport are, they certainly cant be considered ‘elite’. I for one want to see this changed so we can include more people into this sport.
    Sooner of later all of us will need some of these new meds to feel better and to enjoy a vigorous life. I already do, and cant image living the way I did prior to them. In response to side affects of testosterone use..Every person I know who is taking naturopathic gel has to be continually tested to see that the levels avoid precisely what Jon Stone referred to–at a minimum every 6 months and in my case every 3 months. This sport at the Master’s level when considering drug use is still in the dark ages in my opinion.

  14. Matthew - January 31, 2016

    If you’re supplementing with Testosterone to get UP into the normal range, you will not experience “side effects”. You are simply operating in a NORMAL range, as if your body made the hormone. Even though the range for Test is wide, it can be fine tuned based on other blood lab values and honest patient feedback.

    The health risks of LOW Testosterone include decreased life span, cardiovascular disease (including heart attacks and stroke), diabetes and metabolic syndrome and osteoporosis.

  15. Terry Parks - January 31, 2016

    The logic used in these posts supporting banned drug use hurts my head trying to sort through the convoluted reasoning. I have my own health issues and if I had to choose between my health and competing in Masters track, my health would win every time.

    I have to work harder than most people to get aerobic fitness and I have to fight the anemia that is almost always present. Plus, I have to get monitored every 3 months to make sure that my condition is not tipping over to something really bad.

    Level playing field? There is none, you have to take the hand that is dealt you and make the best of it.

    I was thinking that after I won the High Jump and 400 at last years Indoor champs, that I might not have another shot at winning because I might have to start taking drugs that would disqualify me from competing at the the Nationals and Worlds. Lucky for me, everything stabilized and I don’t have to take anything yet. But I made my peace with it. Masters track is great and fun, but I like living more.

    I still have to work pretty hard to be competitive, and that is fine with me because I figure the health benefits I get from working out are probably helping stay off the meds, plus I enjoy training. No one if forcing anyone to compete in Masters Track and I would continue to run and workout even if I couldn’t do Masters track.

    If you feel that you need to boost your T-levels to have healthy life, no one is stopping you. However, there are good reasons why these drugs are banned in Track and Field and if you need to take them, then you need to find another activity to participate in because the rules at the current time do not permit these drugs.

    I think that one on the beautiful things about life is the struggle. As you age, things are not going to be same as when you were younger. Anyone selling you on a fountain of youth, is not being honest with you and perhaps you are not being honest with yourself. Nothing lasts forever, and if the time comes that I can’t do Masters track anymore I will move on to my next challenge.

  16. Weia Reinboud - February 1, 2016

    With a broken leg you need medical care and at the end of the process you just have your leg. A period of improving the quality of life and performance enhancement, but temporary.
    The same for blood pressure, diuretics etcetera. Asthma too, with medicines you just get the possibilities of your lungs, not the lungs of someone else.
    Part of the medicines used in this processes are for several reasons on the prohibited list and it would be fine when masters would get an automatic TUE. Or no TUE at all, in case you are tested, you give the list of your prescriptions, they indeed find that stuff, but you are a master and so you get that TUE at that moment.

    Quite different cases are testosteron, EPO and several others. Here it is very easy to go beyond your own possibilities. Even in cases they are used with a transcription it is unclear where repairing your abilities becomes enhancing your abilities. As some others also proposed: let them compete, but not for medals and prizes. Openly.
    It would be nice when someone at WADA would study the whole list and indicate the two categories of medicines. The TUE-able you do not have to be open about, the others you have to, in case you want to compete for the fun of meeting friends etcetera.

  17. Bill Murray - February 1, 2016

    There are some legitimate health reasons to take PED’s. USATF does not allow athletes with legitimate health issues to compete without a TUE. There are doctor prescribed PED’s for which a TUE will not, under any circumstances, be issued. If an athlete has a health issue which requires a PED and that athlete can not obtain a TUE, let them continue to train and compete in a separate category. Disclose that they are under a doctors care and thus not eligible for record consideration. I am involved at the association, regional and national level trying to grow our sport. I readily admit that my line of thinking is outside the proverbial box. BUT as the population ages and our athletes develop “conditions” which when treated would preclude them from competition, my thought is to find a way to let them continue to train and compete. Presently it is USATF’s way or the highway – maybe that could change. Maybe one day YOU have a medical situation requiring a PED and you don’t want to find another sport. Change isn’t necessarily a bad thing. After all we are all getting older and we are constantly changing.

  18. Bert Bergen - February 1, 2016

    # 11 . Your name again . Somehow I missed it .

  19. A Master's Runner - February 1, 2016

    Bert–

    Why? Exactly what difference would it make to what you have to say about the issue? The answer is that it would make no difference at all, and is therefore unnecessary to this discussion.

    Terry, well said. I echo everything in your post.

    Bill: “Present it is USATF’s way or the highway” Is that true? What about the Senior Games? What about the National Congress of State Games? I have no idea what either of those are about, but what about anybody, anywhere, organizing their own non-USATF-sanctioned meet? If I can rent a track and field for an activity–and I have–so can anybody.

    If you cannot afford the required insurance, too bad–and that’s probably what it’s all about, right? USATF gets insurance that comes with certain conditions, one of which probably is that they have, and adhere to, a code of conduct that is aimed at reducing risk to a level that is actuariallly commensurate with the premium charged. That code of conduct includes the anti-doping policy.

    If you wish to self-select into a higher risk group based on a criterion such as advanced age, or such as a different and riskier code of conduct, so be it. You do not have any right to an insurance premium that you consider affordable.

    And if you’re really that adamant, mobilize. Get money. Buy land. Build facilities, and do what you want. This is how other organizations, centered around other activities, operate, from religious groups to sporting groups, all the way from shooting sports to futsal.

    Stop whining that you cannot currently have the particular solution that you want. You have a great many alternatives, but are either incapable of or unwilling to effect any of those alternatives, or some combination of the two.

    If it so happens that you are incapable thereof due to a lack of basic support for your chosen activity, then you have to either scale back your ambitions, or recognize that they are not viable to undertake in the form in which you wish. To not recognize this fact is to merely lament the truth; to actively ilfiltrate and complain about somebody else’s group when caught infiltrating is whining of the highest order.

    Many androgen users competed for a great many years in USATF-sanctioned events, and gladly adhered to the doping code of conduct that they now want changed, WHILE DOING ABSOLUTELY NO ADVOCATING TO HAVE IT CHANGED. If you believe that a change is worth advocating, then why didn’t you believe so in the past? Because you did not perceive that such a change would result in a net personal beneficial effect at that point, that is why. Likely a part of the calculus was that, at that point, you would have suffered some relative loss. Even if you weren’t actually opposed to it, and “just never thought about it”, the issues were there, and all you were thinking about was your self-interest, which is what you are continuing to do.

    Now your calculus is different, because you perceive that you have something to gain personally. You want to have your cake, and eat it. too, which is narrow-minded and selfish in the extreme, and in many cases actually hypocritical. For years you availed yourself of the convenient benefits of a system that you no longer find convenient.

    USATF is not there for your current convenience, because your current convenience represents practices that are incompatible with the practices USATF currently mandates in order to effect the principles they are charged with nurturing and supporting.

    There are different organizations, that do exist for your current convenience–use those instead. If you really can’t find one in your area, make one, either privately, or under some municipal or other umbrella. Don’t whine to the rest of us about either your inadequacy, or the general unpopularity of your chosen activity and the way in which you wish to pursue it.

    Get your own sandbox, and get out of ours.

  20. A Master's Runner - February 1, 2016

    Anonymous poster 12, the fact that I not only address the actions of other posters but at the same time comment, often at length, on the substantive issues, seems to have escaped you.

  21. tb - February 1, 2016

    Will I still be able to compete in open meets if I belong to this “open-minded” federation? Will I be able to coach anymore?

    I looked up the Sr Games- they don’t test, but they use USATF rules.

  22. Bob Lida - February 1, 2016

    Is there a way to distinguish between PEDs and
    LEDs (Life Enhancing Drugs?)

  23. Anonymous - February 1, 2016

    A Master’s Runner – not in post #2, you sure didn’t.
    Congratulations on finally adding something besides insulting comments to the conversation. You deserve a cookie.

  24. Anonymous - February 1, 2016

    And I’m done with reading A Master’s Runner’s spew. Signing off.

  25. Rick Easley - February 1, 2016

    I would be interested to know the Testosterone levels of “A Mystery Runner” and “anonymous”. Why can’t we set a level between the middle to low normal range and test the athletes to insure they are not benefitting from elevated testosterone. It seems to me that the ones that are really cheating are the ones who are elevating their levels above the norm. They are also the ones who will have the adverse health effects. Most of the suggestions given here are to solve the health problems related to a deficiency and to bring these people back up to at least a normal range or a low normal range. No one is asking to gain an advantage, just to be able to feel like a normal person for-their-age again. I am advocating for controls that make (again)the playing field level. The goal is to keep us, able to take part. Let me say again that this is directed towards the athlete whose doctor has told them their testosterone levels are low, not even low normal.

  26. A Master's Runner - February 1, 2016

    Anonymous, this issue goes back years, even on this board. I not only made substantive comments in the 2016 thread just a bit before this one, I also commented many years ago, for instance in 2011 in this thread:

    http://masterstrack.com/stephen-robbins-what-about-other-unfairness-in-masters-track/

    You are late to the party, unless you commented back then, too; and if you did, your comment is not only incorrect, it is doubly so.

    The recent complaining is every bit as unconvincing as was the complaining back then.

    In the 5 years that have passed since those other threads, there has never been presented on this website any compelling, reasoned argument supporting the wish that USATF rules change.

    Nor has the complaining community done anything other than whining about USATF rules to improve their own situation. That is 5 long years, which makes the whining less tolerable now than it was back then.

    And even back then, it was intolerable. And I’m sure that wasn’t the first time the issue was raised, it’s just the first time that I had heard about it on this site.

    I notice that you have yet to add anything other than insulting comments, Anonymous. I attribute that to the frustration attendant to not having any cogent or convincing reasoning to present in support of your position.

  27. Rick Easley - February 1, 2016

    Master Runner; why do your comments have to be caustic and insulting. Just because someone has expressed a desire to be able to feel normal and enjoy their favorite sport you have to insult them. You may need to take an anger management class. Maybe your testosterone level is too high. Lighten up and don’t get your blood pressure up. Have a nice day!

  28. Bert Bergen - February 1, 2016

    Can’t help but wonder if people who write in anonymously wear masks when they compete . No I suppose that would be a dead giveaway .

  29. A. Lorraine Tucker - February 1, 2016

    Great that this forum is available. I learned a lot from most of the comments.
    My opinion is that drug testing, in spite the flaws, in general makes athletes “Stop and Think” about the health risk, including permanent injury and possibly death.

    Drug testing promotes awareness and much needed discussion about taking substances of all kinds, including prescribed,off/over -the shelf, off the internet,and from foreign vacations.

    On a lighter note, I feel there is hope. So far, we are not under scrutiny for doping our shoes and equipme

  30. A. Lorraine Tucker - February 1, 2016

    …the end of my post should have been: Not under scrutiny for doping shoes and equipment like international cycling.

  31. A Master's Runner - February 1, 2016

    Bert, thank-you for showing everyone what you are capable of contributing to this discussion.

    Rick: “expressed a desire to be able to feel normal and enjoy their favorite sport”. I will respond when I have time. As is often the case in these threads, you characterize the issues from only one perspective. Also, sometimes insult is earned, and deserved. I only give as good as I get.

  32. Bill Murray - February 1, 2016

    Master’s Runner why do you hide in ignominity. Easy to be mean and nasty and anonymous

  33. Mike Walker - February 1, 2016

    This series of posts have deteriorated into the land of spiteful name calling and nothing worth reading.

  34. Stephen P. Robbins - February 1, 2016

    Ken Stone: I think you need to impose a requirement that no anonymous comments be posted on your site. Clearly there are people who have difficulty respecting opinions they don’t agree with but enjoy hiding behind their anonymity. Your readers shouldn’t have to read angry and nasty comments by individuals who are afraid to identify themselves and be held accountable for their comments.

  35. Ken Stone - February 1, 2016

    I appreciate the angst over anonymous comments, but they can advance the debate. But keep a lid on rudeness — unless it’s directed at me. I probably deserve it.

  36. A Master's Runner - February 2, 2016

    I thank you, Ken, for the latitude that you and the other moderators have extended to me. I will endeavor to not be “rude”, but I will try to be unequivocal.

    I notice that there are still no substantive responses on the issues:

    Stephen: Same as 5 years ago, you do not intimidate me. One can “respect” someone who offers an opinion, and still disagree with that opinion vehemently, and even be angered by it. It is also true that it can be entirely valid to not “respect” the fact that someone has offered a particular opinion or parts of an opinion, depending on the reason behind the offering. It is also true that it can be entirely valid to not respect the motivations for, or the process of arriving at, an opinion being offered. It is also true that it can be entirely valid to agree with no parts of an opinion whatsoever, even while taking the time to understand that opinion.

    In my world, respect is earned, not simply accorded. Disrespect is also earned, and not simply accorded. Let’s not beat around the bush–you certainly have expressed little to no respect, and even disrespect, for both my manner of commenting, or my substantive position. Live by the sword, Stephen, die by the sword.

    Nobody is preventing you, or anybody else, from “holding me accountable” on this board. I put to you the same question that I put to Bert, and if I’m not mistaken the same question I put to yourself 5 years ago: exactly what difference would it make to this discussion if you were to know my identity? Unless you plan on making directed threats, specific intimidation, or doing violence, it would have absolutely no effect on this discussion, which is why the question has gone unanswered, both in this thread, and 5 years ago. Move on.

    Rick: “Just because someone has expressed a desire to be able to feel normal and enjoy their favorite sport” That is not at all what people are doing; what they are in fact doing is well-documented.

    tb: whether you will be able to compete in USATF is up to you, your supporters, and your advocacy. As of this time, the answer appears to be no. I don’t know how coaching qualifications work, but considering that the USATF coaching ranks currently contain some who have been sanctioned for doping offenses, I would guess that you would be able to continue coaching even if you served a doping-related sanction, although maybe after some time off. My mention of the Senior Games and others was meant to provide only an example, but considering that they apparently follow USATF rules, it’s a good example. Ask yourself WHY they follow those rules. The answer is very likely that those rules are well-known and standardized and therefore make meet administration easier, and better, and the games more attractive to prospective entrants. It is also very likely that they adopt the USATF rules in order to qualify for affordable insurance, and for good reason, one of which is the proscription on doping.

    In my opinion, this discussion hasn’t advanced anywhere. It’s the same people, complaining about the same issues, in the same manner, with the same result, and the same response to opposition that they have not successfully opposed. It is clear for all to see in this thread who is addressing the issue, and who is merely insulting, pejorative, petty, and vituperative.

    Again thanks to Ken for not shutting this down. For my part I won’t post any longer, unless there is something substantive that permits a substantive response.

  37. A Master's Runner - February 2, 2016

    For those who wish to read more from years ago, there is this thread:

    http://masterstrack.com/george-mathews-details-plans-for-new-drug-category-for-masters/

    You can select “previous post” or “next post” at the bottom of the page, there are various other threads traversing this issue, and related issues.

  38. Bert Bergen - February 2, 2016

    #36 The affect your anonymity has on the discussion is lack of credibility . If you believe what you have to say, and say at great length I might add , you put your name behind it . As for repercussions ” doing violence ” do you really think what you have to say will stir up that kind of strong reaction ? As my kids would say , get over yourself..

  39. Rick Easley - February 2, 2016

    To Master Runner, whoever you are. Respect cuts both ways. When you can offer an opinion in a respectful manner you also can earn the respect of others. On the same note, until you can walk (or run for that matter) a mile in someone else’s shoes how can you offer an informed opinion on their situation. I still think you miss the distinction between low normal T levels and low T levels. Those who are low normal have no real need for medication. Not true for the other situation.

  40. Tony Echeandia - February 2, 2016

    An interesting topic and one that is not easily answered. Last year I learned two very profound secrets from athletes that I compete with, in one case my friend is a Cancer survivor, testicular cancer to be exact and because of this cancer he had to have his testicles removed, he is supplemented testosterone in order to be healthy and not to succumb to the effects of not producing testosterone, in the other case my friend is HIV positive and part of the therapy to stay healthy and alive is to receive Testosterone and EPO. I believe in these extreme cases these athletes must be able to take these medications to stay a live, and not just stay alive but compete in the sports they love. I hope when we discuss topics like this we don’t think of just the cheats but our fellow athletes that need these medications in order to be normal and do the things they love, while they can.

  41. Anthony Treacher - February 2, 2016

    Tony. Are your two friends with these medical conditions and who use testosterone, competing with TUEs?

  42. Rick Easley - February 2, 2016

    In regards to what Tony said; please don’t tell those people that they should be happy just to be able to train and participate in all comers meets or run just for the physical activity. That is insulting to the person who has spent most of his life competing at our level and has developed friendships in our track and field community. If they can find a way to remain where they have always been then why should they not be allowed to, as long as they don’t exceed normal biological function (read at least the minimum normal levels required for health) as established by a medical doctor.

  43. Rick Easley - February 2, 2016

    Excellent question Anthony.

  44. Rick Easley - February 2, 2016

    Don Schaefer had an excellent suggestion in the previous Greg Pizza thread.

  45. Tony Echeandia - February 2, 2016

    I don’t know what TUE’s are but if its with permission from the agencies that test athlete’s then Yes, I believe that both of these Athlete’s have TUE’s and have exposed their issues to the powers that be and are approved to compete. I can say that both are good athlete’s and good people and are NOT taking advantage of their situation to compete, Rick I agree with you totally!!

  46. Mike - February 3, 2016

    Tony E’s post reflects part of the problem. Tony is a world class athlete and doesn’t know what a TUE is! How many out there are in the same boat?

    Mike Travers

  47. Tony Echeandia - February 5, 2016

    Mike, Its not a problem, I’m not receiving any such therapy, if I was I would investigate what it entailed and whether or not it was worth it to me. Its only an issue to the individuals that are involved in taking medications they know are suspect.

  48. Joe Patridge II - February 6, 2016

    Why do we as masters athletes compete? I compete because I enjoy the process of training and preparing for a meet. I don’t concern myself with the actions of other athletes because I can’t be concerned with things that I can’t control. I’m only interested in me and my performance.
    Sure, I enjoy winning but winning is not the primary reason I compete. Participating in masters track and field has given me a tangible reason to stay in shape; a reason to bust my ass at the gym lifting weights and doing agility drills. I don’t care what my competitors are doing. In fact the idea that masters athletes are using performance enhancing drugs only motivates me to work harder.
    We all compete for different reasons and for me winning is only a small part of the equation. The benefits of preparing to compete far outweigh the results of the competition.

  49. Max Speed - February 7, 2016

    Joe (#48), you are most certainly the exception to the rule here. Well said.

  50. Steve Dixon - February 17, 2016

    It is very suspect for guys to using TRT therapy claiming they are getting to norman levels but will have an advantage over non users. Not only that, it is horrendous that they are letting guys back who have tested positive for steroids in the past. Guys like Jeff Laynes got busted for the same stuff Ben Johnson was on and other infractions, yet they are allowed to compete after serving a suspension. New research is coming out that these guys have residual benefits form use well after they have been clean. Gatlin and Gay still have an unfair advantage over others even if they’ve been clean for years!

  51. Ken Stone - September 27, 2016

    WADA releases FAQ on TUE:
    https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/tue_qa-eng.pdf

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