Nolan Shaheed lowers his already stunning 800 WR to 2:08.56
Hey, kids! Learn from the master. If you want a great time in the 800, shoot for even splits. That’s what Nolan Shaheed did Saturday at the Tiny Lister meet at Cal State Los Angeles, where he ran 64-64 and ended up with 2:08.56 — taking a half-second off his week-old M60 world record at Mt. SAC. Nolan writes: “They awarded me Male Athlete of the Meet and gave me a wonderful trophy. That is a GREAT HONOR.” Indeed. And but for the wind, he might have shared the honor with M50 Willie Gault, who ran wind-aided sprints of 10.90 and 22.49 with the listed world age-group records being 10.95 and 22.53. Results are here. Nolan’s 2:08.56 corresponds, on the Age-Graded Tables, to an open mark (ages 20-30) of 1:42.17. And Willie? Try 9.72 and 19.38. Call him Willie Bolt.
Gault made good on his WR predictions, but couldn't control the wind.
Men 800 Meter Run
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Name Year School Finals
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1 Ryan Thomas USC 1:55.64
2 Barry Wilkins USC 1:56.03
3 Nicholas Thornton Unattached 1:57.72
4 Didier Venel Unattached 1:58.71
5 Vijay Tidwell CS Los Angeles 1:59.17
6 Rafer Weaver Unattached 1:59.51
7 Nelson Lopez Unattached 1:59.91
8 Irvin Zamora Unattached 1:59.96
8 Kai Gamble Unattached 1:59.96
10 Alex Nganga CS Los Angeles 2:00.23
11 Thomas Finnigan Unattached 2:00.36
12 Jason Duarte Unattached 2:01.39
13 John Bernardo Unattached 2:05.24
14 Zach Dion Track-Club L 2:07.18
15 Jesus Sanchez CS Los Angeles 2:07.28
16 Nolan Shaheed So Cal track 2:08.56
17 Miguel Gonzales CS Bakersfield 2:12.48
18 Travis VanLeeuwen Unattached 2:17.59
19 Agustin Malagon Sanchez Unattached 2:20.81
Men 100 Meter Dash
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Name Year School Finals Wind H#
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1 Emanuel Callender HSI 10.29 2.8 1
2 Ahmad Rashad HSI 10.32 2.8 1
3 Andy Robertson Team England 10.35 2.8 1
4 Giorgio Bryant CS Los Angeles 10.59 2.1 2
5 Michael Davis CS Bakersfield 10.63 2.1 2
6 Tre Houston Loughborough 10.71 2.8 1
7 Othroy Marsh Team England 10.74 2.1 2
8 Tal Mor Unattached 10.76 0.9 4
9 David Carcamo Unattached 10.77 1.7 3
9 Idris Ojuriye Team England 10.77 2.1 2
11 David Telfer-James Team England 10.79 2.1 5
11 Josh Stangby Unattached 10.79 1.7 3
13 Johnny Davis LA Trade Tech 10.85 1.7 3
13 Fernando Matamoros Eureka Mexico 10.85 2.1 2
15 Thomas Henry CS Northridge 10.86 2.1 5
16 Lumar Sylvester Team England 10.88 0.9 4
17 Willie Gault Unattached 10.90 2.8 1
17 Damon Dees Unattached 10.90 2.1 2
19 Ette Moses Team England 11.07 0.9 4
19 Justus Mora CS Bakersfield 11.07 0.9 4
21 Kenyon Morris Unattached 11.09 2.1 5
22 Renard Fredericks Team England 11.13 0.9 4
23 christopher Todd Unattached 11.19 2.1 2
Men 200 Meter Dash
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Name Year School Finals Wind H#
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1 Andy Robertson Team England 21.06 0.1 2
2 Emanuel Callender HSI 21.16 2.4 1
3 Giorgio Bryant CS Los Angeles 21.27 0.1 2
4 Ryan Scott Team England 21.37 2.4 1
4 David Reid CS Northridge 21.37 1.0 3
6 Christian Dicks Cheetahs Int’l 21.44 0.1 2
6 Harold Houston Bermuda 21.44 2.4 1
8 Lumar Sylvester Team England 21.47 1.0 3
9 Michael Davis CS Bakersfield 21.58 0.1 2
10 David Carcamo Unattached 21.59 3.0 4
11 Tal Mor Unattached 21.70 3.0 4
12 Fernando Matamoros Eureka Mexico 21.75 2.4 1
13 Gianni Frankis Team England 21.76 3.0 4
14 Scott DeYoung USC 21.78 3.0 4
15 Dominic McGiffert CS Los Angeles 21.80 1.0 3
16 David Telfer-James Team England 21.83 1.0 3
17 Josh Tennefoss USC 21.84 3.0 4
18 Othroy Marsh Team England 21.92 1.0 3
18 Khalid Jones CS Northridge 21.92 0.4 8
20 Jeff Macdonald Claremont-Mudd 21.93 1.0 3
20 Josh Stangby Unattached 21.93 1.0 3
22 Josh Perkins Unattached 22.08 3.0 4
23 Didier Venel Unattached 22.13 3.0 4
24 Daniel Davis Team England 22.16 2.2 6
25 Matthew Turkington CS Bakersfield 22.30 1.1 5
26 Ette Moses Team England 22.46 1.1 5
27 Willie Gault Unattached 22.49 2.4 1
27 Kenyon Morris Unattached 22.49 2.2 6
13 Responses
“Learn from the master. If you want a great time in the 800, shoot for even splits.”
Another lesson would be to shoot for positive splits.
Last week when Noolan run in 2.09 he did 67+62. Now he gained 3 seconds in the first lap and lost 2 the second. Following the trend he should shoot for 61 for the first lap resulting in 66 for the second and totally 2.07.
Congratulations Nolan. You are on a tear! When watching his Mt Sac record, In saw how wide he had to run for much of the race. Right then I knew there was a 2:07 in those legs. Just stay healthy my friend
Nolan…”you are on FIRE”….
Hmmm, by Henry’s logic, Nolan should run a 56 first lap and jog the second?
Congrats again Nolan! I think Nolan is running so well that he can set records going out either slow or fast. Can’t wait to see some great results in Sacramento this summer. I also think it is great that the meet acknowledged that his performance was superior to any of the collegiate runners for the Athlete of the Meet trophy!
The only problem we have with Nolan negatively slicing his own world record one week later is that the age-graded tables can’t keep pace with him. He is fast approaching an open 800 mark of sub-1:40, not the pending 1:41.01 of Kenyan David Rudisha, nor the 1:42.17 that Ken references above. Age-grading to an open mark of sub-1:40 . . .now that is a challenge that might even bring Johnny Gray out of retirement!
Well the age graded tables aren’t exactly spot on in the older age groups as the factors represent current data-which becomes scarcer for the aging athlete.
Add about 8 seconds to his age 50 record- 1:58.65 (2/3 of a second per year)x 12 years and you have a 62 year old running 2:06.65 – exactly 50 meters behind his former self. About 25 strides. I’d say that is par for the course. 2 or so strides per year. Some athletes have even greater sustainability but are not as fast. Nolan was close to 1:50 when he was 40, but how about an age 40 -2 flat performer who still manages to run a 2:02 when they are 50. (I know of at least one) Still slower than record pace but the overall rate of decline is far less – an equally impressive feat.
Don’t get me wrong though, his records are amazing, truly a pioneer. Will others break these marks?- maybe, but not without some serious talent and willpower.
In a few years the 800 world record will be close to 1:40 flat. In a few years the age graded calculator will need to be revised. In a few years we will see Nolan break a few more world records when he turns 65.
Age graded calculator’s are sort of good for looking forward though to pick out a time that may be worthy of a time you ran in a younger age group, but certainly not for saying, I was or could have been this good. No way Willie Gault could have run 19.38 in his youth. That being said it doesn’t take anything away from the great talent that he is.
Shaheed is a legend. He will keep breaking records, and resetting the bar for everyone who follows. Would a 62 year old Gray be able to run 2:05? Who knows- – he may be capable of it or maybe not. Even if he did though, it means after 27 years he lost 22 seconds or about 140 meters, an even greater decline than Nolan.
Anyway- I guess the point is- take the age graded thing with a grain of salt. Bottom line this new 800 record is very fast! I bet he lowers it a couple more times and even after his July 18th Bday this summer. A 2:06 is in his capability.
Nolan, You never cease to amaze me!!! Keep it up, brother.
That’s great Nolan ! At this rate you’ll better my M55 time by the end of the month !
Kind regards !
Nolan Shaheed for Sports Illustrated’s Sportsman of the Year award for 2011. Yes !! They say that 60 is the new 40, but few believe that. Well, Nolan has just made a few more believers.
Nolan has the electricity, the musicianship, the brilliance, the strange diet — what is not to like? Write to Sports Illustrated and say that you want Nolan to be honored for 2011.
Nolan has been immortalized in Faces in the Crowd, BTW: http://masterstrack.com/2010/03/8961/
Nolan –
Seems like the need for congratulations never ceases! You are absolutely incredible.
Nolan was just named Athlete of the Week by USATF. I always thought that Nolan was superior to almost everyone else on the track, and that award just strengthens my feelings. Superior in the music field as well.
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