Kathy Jager suspended 2 years (for second time) for Berea positive
In 1999, Kathy Jager was handed a two-year drug suspension after testing positive at Gateshead worlds for a menopause medicine (which she freely admitted to). Now she’s been sanctioned another two years for a positive test at Berea nationals. This changes things. How can she account for this? The Washington Post brief is here. More details to come. USADA’s press release from yesterday is below. This is second bust from Berea, following the punishment of thrower Craig Shumaker, who signaled his retirement from the sport. Geeezerjock magazine editor Sean Callahan wrote about Jager (JAY-ger) for Salon about six years ago.
Kathy is interviewed by Sean Callahan at 2004 masters nationals in Illinois.
Here is the USADA statement:
Colorado Springs, Colo. (October 18, 2011) USADA announced today that Kathy Jager of Glendale, Ariz., an athlete in the sport of track and field, has tested positive for a prohibited substance and accepted a suspension for her doping offense.
Laboratory analysis of a sample provided by Jager, 68, at the 2011 USA Masters Track & Field Championships, on July 29, 2011, in Berea, Ohio, resulted in an Adverse Analytical Finding for an anabolic agent. Anabolic Androgenic Steroids are prohibited under the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing and the rules of the International Association of Athletics Federations, both of which have adopted the World Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Agency Prohibited List.
The doping offense involved the use of a prescribed medication under the care of a physician but without first seeking a therapeutic use exemption as required by the applicable rules.
Jager accepted a two-year period of ineligibility, which began on September 26, 2011, the day she accepted a provisional suspension. As a result of the sanction, Jager is also disqualified from all competitive results obtained on and subsequent to July 28, 2011, which is the date on which the USA Masters Track & Field Championships, the event at which her sample was collected, began, including forfeiture of any medals, points, and prizes.
In an effort to aid athletes, as well as all support team members such as parents and coaches, in understanding the rules applicable to them, USADA provides comprehensive instruction on its website on the testing process and prohibited substances, how to obtain permission to use a necessary medication, and the risks and dangers of taking supplements as well as performance-enhancing and recreational drugs. In addition, the agency manages a drug reference hotline, Drug Reference Online (www.GlobalDRO.com), conducts educational sessions with National Governing Bodies and their athletes, and proactively distributes a multitude of educational materials, such as the Prohibited List, easy-reference wallet cards, periodic newsletters, and protocol and policy reference documentation.
USADA is responsible for the testing and results management process for athletes in the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement, and is equally dedicated to preserving the integrity of sport through research initiatives and educational programs.
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What? No life ban for a second offense? An athlete of Kathy’s experience must have known she needed a TUE. Did she not ask, or was she refused? This is a sad result for our sport,mall-round. I notice the dates mean her Sacramento results stand, even if now worthless.
Thank you Kathy! Not that it wasn’t obvious.
A second offense should be a life ban for the offender.
We do not know if she was taking the medically prescribed medication while at Sacramento- or even if she was tested then. So I would not be so quick to assume her results there were “worthless”. That is a pretty harsh statement.
Frankly I think it is sad that masters athletes are sometimes faced with the choice of taking a prescribed medication – for which there may be no TUE possible (do not know if that is the case but I am pretty sure Kathy knew that – after all she was “busted” at Gateshead for taking a menopause medication.) But anyway – the choice for some is – take the prescribed medication for a medical problem and not compete – or chance getting tested and busted.
Of course there are those who are fortunate enough not to face that choice and they can pontificate about not taking drugs for any reason. I doubt this is a case of trying to enhance athletic performance – but there will always be those who are convinced that any medication for which there is no TUE will just do marvels for one’s performance. A number of banned drugs mask other drugs that can enhance performance – the masking drug doing nothing at all for enhancing performance. We do not have enough information in this case to make intelligent statements – just judgmental ones.
I am not suggesting that there are not competitors trying to cheat -what I am suggesting is that the current drug testing system makes no allowance for the genuine medical needs of masters athletes. It is an all or nothing system. A very few Val Barnwells get caught – but others are caught up in a all or nothing testing program that gets them banned and labeled cheats.
I have very little respect for the current masters drug testing program that of late “busted” one athlete for taking an OTC cold remedy and two US athletes for taking medication prescribed by their physicians. One of these athletes has now given up masters competition rather than not be able to take his medication. I do not know what Kathy was taking or why – but she is not denying it nor making excuses. That leaves us with one athlete who fought the drug charge with some pretty bizarre claims for using a PED. Perhaps there are cases of truly performance enhancing drug cheats in Europe – I am not familiar with what is going on there.
But based upon what has been in the US press during the last 2 years – 1 real cheat – and 3 questionable ones – pretty poor odds of catching the cheats, and pretty expensive as well. Reputations are damaged permanently as well. This is a very flawed system imposed upon masters in Track and Field by national and international drug testing organizations that are focused primarily upon elite athletes who make a living at the sport but rammed down the throats of the rest of us who pay out of pocket to compete and to be tested according standard that does not at all deal with the needs of aging athletes.
I did some checking and found out that after the first offense, she changed medication to one that was approved by the USADA. She was tested regularly and never fail a test for six years. But the new medication was just recently banded without her knowledge.
This is why there is no life ban and it raises again another question.
Should she always check the list to see if changes have been made instead of naively assuming that what was o.k. 5 months ago might not be illegal today ? or
Should the USADA contact people when they make a change to a medication that they previously approved, when they know that person is taking that medication?
I agree with Mary that the current testing scheme is deeply flawed. Others have suggested that people could declare medically prescribed drug usage and give not be allowed to set records or win medals. This might work. In the meantime, we should all be aware that USADA is serious about testing Masters.
It is almost November and we are still getting bad news from Berea. I wonder if there are other cases from Berea. I hope not, but it is sure is not looking good.
Normally, a second doping violation would result in a lifetime ban so it appears that USADA applying a different standard for Masters. Two years is a long time for a Masters athlete to be away from competing.
We may not get the respect that the elites get, but we sure have the same responsibilities as far as drug testing.
Thanks for the follow up Nolan. I think if I was taking anything I would check regularly and before every big meet.
This is a sad, sad case. Kathy is a terrific person and a great competitor who endured merciless treatment by the English tabloid press surrounding the Gateshead incident.
Anyone unfamiliar with what she went through in England should read the Sean Callahan story that Ken references above. What a nightmare.
Something tells me this drug test wasn’t “random”.
So Kathys two bans will amount to 13 percent of her life as a master so far. All for legitimately trying to take medications for medical reasons it seems. At least that sounds very possible based on Nolans comment. Does the punishment fit the crime?
Unbelievable. Obviously didn’t learn or didn’t care or hoped to be bypassed for this round of testing! SAD SAD SAD
The press release and many here have pointed out the fact that the drug was prescribed a doctor, but as poster # 2 (John) has pointed out, the ANABOLIC ANDROGENIC STEROID medication has OBVIOUSLY had a significant effect on Kathy’s physique. She is very muscular & vascular and has very little bodyfat. Infact, her physique is off the charts compared to other competitors in her age-group -women & men!
Jstone, if you will read the article by Sean Callahan, Kathy has ALWAYS had that body type…even in her youth, before anybody even thought about anabolic steroids.
The fact of the matter is that some women have more “masculine” body types than others.
If Kathy was singled out for drug testing based on her “looks”, it is another reason to rethink the program.
Rod – I was told in Sydney by an official that some filed event officials were told to point out athletes who “looked” like they might be using. So much for “random” testing.
Rob D’Avellar, She has tested positive and admitted to taking prescribed medications that contain anabolic steroids twice! What part of that don’t you get?
Just like cattle that are given hormones have a certain look, people who use testosterone, steroids, HGH, IGF-1, estrogen blockers, clenbuterol and other muscle building PED’s also have a distinct & undeniable look. I am sure that Steven Sashen, Brad Dittmar, Bart Thomas, John Simpson, myself, and many others the frequent this website can spot most –not all– dopers based on their appearance.
Also, for the sake of common sense, I sure hope that you do not think that Marion Jones, Flo-Jo, Mary Decker, Carmelita Jeter, Sandra Myers, Jarmila Kratochvilova, Michelle Collins, Grit Breuer, Kratrin Krabbe, Zhanna Pintusevich-Block, Fani Halkia and Ekaterina Thanou were all just naturally muscular women!
Post # 14 should say: that frequent…not the frequent.
wake up people! finally the masters track and field world is testing for drugs. i go to meets year after year and see obviously juiced up competitors. no excuses! we know what is not allowed, we know what we need medical exemptions for. why act surprised?
JStone, there are two issues here. I am not disputing that Kathy tested positive and admitted taking the medications.
I am questioning how “random” the “random drug testing” was. If selection is based on “looks”, then that is an invitation for whispering campaigns to get any successful athlete tested just because they are successful and perhaps “look” guilty. Where is the “randomness” in that?
As for the women athletes you list, I hope their lawyers aren’t reading this blog.
Rob D’Avellar, Clean athletes that follow the rules have nothing fear and I am sure that 99.9% of them would be happy to provide a sample at every meet!
All of the women on my list have tested positive, been convicted in the court of public-opinion or served actual jail time!
Apparently you are not a lawyer and you have not followed or you have forgotten the history of doping suspensions in our sport!
who cares how “random” it was? she tested positive, why are people trying to make excuses?
Post # 18 should say: nothing to fear…
Random testing serves as general deterent, whereas targeted testing is much more specific. Obvioulsy, they both have benfits and drawbacks, but isn’t the ultimate objective to have a clean sport?
Also, all of the two-year suspensions for masters have involved anabolic androgenic steroids as opposed to stimulants or diruetics, so why all the fuss over something that nobody has really been punished for?
JStone, so with the “targeted testing” you mention, how exactly does that work?
You and the other fellas you mention who “can spot most –not all– dopers based on their appearance” are going to report your suspicions to officials and then let the officials take it from there?
The objective of having a clean sport is great, but this “targeted” as opposed to “random” testing seems a little like searching for Commies in the 1950s.
The following link gives a much better explanation of what happened than the AP’s brief snippet: http://www.steroids.info/2011/10/18/super-granny-banned-for-anabolic-steroid-use/
Look at her compared to the other female athletes she competes with. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck……
Why are we always making excuses for people who take drugs?
Finally we see why some people win competitions. It is good to know.
thank you for that last post. we in the masters community have known for years that some are taking drugs to improve their performance. this website seems to condone it. why?
I have competed on the masters track circuit for the past 10 years and have always wondered if there is something else going on here with Kathy (who is a wonderful woman). Her willingness to accept these sanctions while taking her prescriptions might point to her need for these medications combined with a larger with a larger reality that she will rather not discuss.
testing masters athletes is a waste of time and money
Random testing is just a minor addition to targeted testing. Medalists, record breakers are far more tested, of course. Cheaper and more to the point.
I have been tested only once, in Gateshead. I do not know if it was random, partially random or as a medalist. I would not mind when world record holders should be tested.
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Instead of random drug testing (which is what masters testing claims to do ) how about targeted testing of all those whom a select group of masters athletes decide “look like they are taking drugs”. I
I would nominate JStone, whose your daddy, and Ben for this panel. They are so quick to condemn someone based upon appearance.
You sound like a bunch of middle school bullies.
OK… some of you are not going to like what I’m about to say and I will be the first to admit that it is “tough love” as they say.
Masters sports to me should be about who still has the “stuff” they did when they were younger. If you need drugs of ANY kind to make it to the start line then you should stay home…you’re done…sorry. TUE’s,PED’s,STD’s or whatever should all be banned. Does this mean that just because you developed some ailment or deficiency at an older age that you didn’t have in your youth that you have to give up your life’s passion…no, just competitively. Stay away from competition. There are plenty of 100% drug free masters athletes who would rather stay home than compete knowing they could only do so with the help of their inhaler or whatever.
Tough love…you bet, but boy would it level the playing field. No more excuses, no more “I didn’t know’s”, no more blame. Have the integrity to “swallow you’re medicine” no matter how harsh, do the right thing and leave masters competitions to the people lucky enough that still have the right “stuff”.
Max Speed-you remind me of the folks that are happy when no one else shows up in their age group and they can “win” the gold medal. If you had half a brain maybe you’d realize that many of the athletes under a doctors care for PED’s are taking legal medications to get their health to a normal level, not some juiced up level to deprive you of your vainglory.
JStone-the Nazi’s could have used you in the 30’s and 40’s to help point out folks with abnormally large noses. Steroids…heritage…heredity…only experts like you can tell for sure.
I wanted to respond to those who feel that just because a female is muscular that she is using steroids. There are many females who are naturally muscular. I take after my grandmother who had very big muscles & she was not athletic at all. Ever since I was a little girl, I was muscular. My father made bets with people that I had bigger bicep muscles than their sons. My father never lost a bet. It is upsetting when someone suggest that you must be taking something because you look strong. My sister just started the “Insanity” workout & turned 50. She wanted to do it because it was a challenge but now she looks like a bodybuilder. She did not want to look like a bodybuilder but with our genetics that was the result. Because of this genetic trait I can get very strong quickly & muscular when lifting heavy weights so the use for drugs never came to mind. When I was competing in Open T&F in the 1980’s, steroid use was off the charts. The girls I used to beat got huge & developed deep voices & totally kicked my butt. I had a choice, take drugs & keep up with them or retire. I chose to retire rather than put that junk in my body. No medal is worth your life. Some of these athletes are dead. I could be proud of the accomplishments I achieved because I knew I was clean & never felt the need to resort to steroid use. Going through menopause I have accumulated a lot of fat but the well developed muscles are still underneath. I have no problem with getting drug tested whether in competition or out of competition or if a record is set. If I am ever prescribed any medication I immediately look to see if it is on the banned list. Besides looking it up I also call. A new drug may not be on the banned list but it may contain a banned ingredient. If medication is needed, I also try to find a natural alternative because after reading all of the side effects of some drugs, I rather deal with the problem than take the drug. For instance, I had a problem with high cholesterol. My doctor wanted me to take Lipitor. After reading the side effects of possible heart attack & stroke, I turned to my nutritionist who has me taking fish oil & garlic tablets. Problem solved. It may not work for everyone but it works for me. Cinnamon & Lipoic acid works well for my high blood sugar. Drug testing does pose a very serious problem for Master athletes who have no choice but to take some kind medication to deal with their health problems. The inhaler for my asthma is approved for out of competition but not in competition. I was having breathing problems at the World Championships in the Throws Pentathlon, but if I used my inhaler & was tested, I would have failed a drug test. I gutted it out but performed very poorly. If I decided to use the inhaler I felt my only choice would be to withdraw in order to follow the rules & avoid any kind of resulting embarrassment. Using my inhaler would not have given me any kind of advantage or super human powers except to breathe normally. But because drug testing is probably here to stay, you have to be diligent in checking on a regular basis if your medication is still approved. No one should have to feel that they cannot compete if they have a legitimate medical condition & are under doctor supervision. But unfortunately because athletes have abused drugs in the past & still do, everyone has to pay.
M. Speed’s point works pretty well in a population of relatively healthy younger masters age groups. As the years go by, however, I contend you’d lose your friends one by one as they announce their retirement from competition due to a health problem that required drugs that are not allowed. The fortunate few remaining in older age groups that are still in good health would compete against no one, have no fun, and get really lonely.
Bravo, Mary
If JStone and his pals can tell by “looks” who is taking banned drugs, then why don’t they come forward with their list of names? Jstone, you say want a clean sport. Aren’t you being complicit in keeping the sport dirty by not revealing the names of everyone you have determined by their “looks” to be on drugs?
The quickest solution to the drug problem in Masters Track and Field is to test everyone on JStone’s list and ban the guilty ones. Then, the innocent ones will at least know who has been talking behind their backs.
Judging people on their “looks” is plain wrong, especially when those “looks” may be due to something entirely unrelated to drugs, as revealed in Ken’s most recent posting about Kathy’s lipodystrophy condition.
#32 Anonymous,
Spoken like a true doper. Thats what all dopers who get caught say “I was just trying to get my levels up to normal”…well guess what, normal is drug free, if you’re not, please stay home.
#34 Dave,
And they would deserve every gold medal they ever won 🙂
Ah, no, Max;#31, you confuse “tough love” with an indifferent “tough luck.” If someone needs a medication, just to breathe, or continue a relatively full life, hey, tough luck. “Quit competing.” That’s not love, that’s fear. In fear, we confuse possibility with probability. Yeah, it’s possible someone might cheat to beat you, that masters track is loaded with drugsters who are getting juiced so they can sign those lucrative arthritis medication endorsements, or garner the fame from those knee replacement contracts. But not likely.
Most of the people with medically approved TUE’s do so because they love this sport. They’re not getting much, if any, competitive edge; they’re just allowed to continue living and running. Most of the people caught will be masters who used something because they needed to medically, and for some reason, didn’t get a TUE. Sure, they are others, I imagine a very small number, yet even a few I suspect in my age group, that do so intentionally to cheat, and when caught they should be punished.
We that love this sport, in between bouts of dreading it, the workouts and our nagging injuries, continue to compete because it’s what makes us, us. Masters track defines a big part of who we’ve become; it’s part of our mature identity that only a few like minded get.
Sure it’d be great if there were a level playing field, whatever that might look like, but the important thing to remember, after all, it’s still just a playing field. Have fun, do your best, welcome others, and compete fairly.
#38 Larry,
Let me say that I assure you I am just as passionate about this sport as anyone on this website(well maybe not Ken S.) That said, I still stand by my post. Tough love or tough luck are both the same to me. I get the whole identy thing, I really do although you can’t mention identity without the word “ego” coming to mind in this case.
Again, my point is simple, if you need a TUE or a PED or a freakin bionic leg to continue competing then it’s time to park the identity/ego and move on.
Also, I know lots of former athletes who now “coach” the sport they love. It’s a great way to stay involved and you just might like how it feeds that identity you speak of and can fill that competitive void you fear.
Rob,D’, Mary Harda, Anonymous and others, I sure hope that you don’t spew venom at your doctors when they say, “based on what I see after examining you and what is listed in the Physician’s Desk Reference, you exhibit symptoms for this condition, let me test you for it.”
Very few people that use this website are doctors, but it does not take a doctor or genius to know that a person manifesting the physical symptoms, which are VISIBLE to the NAKED EYE, for the condtions listed below should seek medical treatment, which may also entail TESTING.
1. Chicken Pox/Shingles
2. Jaundice
3. Stroke
4. Ringworm
5. Smallpox
6. Pink Eye
7. Lime Disease
8. Tonsilitis
Also, I have never said that testing based on visual symptomatic appearance should replace random testing, I said that both types of testing should be used in concert.
1. Random Testing – Is just that, random.
2. General Targeted Testing – Is needed for those who have previously tested positive or have TUE’s.
3. Specific Targeted Testing – Should be used for those who exhibit symptoms of drug use and/or set records that seem just-too-good-to-be-true.
Finally, as always, CLEAN ATHLETES have nothing to fear!!!
JStone,
Your example of a visit to doctor’s office is a completely different situation because the patient is actively seeking medical help based on the doctor’s visual inspection and testing.
Targeting an athlete for drug testing because of his or her looks is obviously not something that an athlete has actively sought, as in your medical office example.
But since you claim to know the visual symptoms of drug use, what’s keeping you from turning people in? Officials may not be able to recognize the symptoms as well as you can. So make yourself happy and turn people and let’s see what happens.
Targeted drug testing (because of the looks) is questionable. However, I think the national champions and if money available top three in the national championship should be tested. Certainly top three in the World Championship. Most if not all of the recently publicized drug cases would have been caught this way.
If I am ever tested because I look like I am taking PED’s I will be thankful for the compliment!
JP>
Rob D’, I will be more than happy to assist with pointing out athletes outwardly exhibiting physical characteristics of PED use as soon as our drug testing rules allow it!
In the meantime you should feel free to contact Gary Snyder, USATF Masters Chair at 617-480-6506
or the USADA at 866-601-2632 with your ideas for solutions to masters doping issues.
Also, since you seem to be so quick to say “I hope someone’s lawyer is not reading this.” Stating or quoting factual information does not constitue slander or libel. In other words, saying that someone exhibits the characteristics of a behavior is quite different from saying that they are actually engaging in that behavior.
As always, when it comes to drug testing, CLEAN ATHlETES that follow the rules have nothing to fear!
An important point has been missed in this sad saga and that is that all athletes are required to give details of any medication they are taking when they complete their World Masters Athletics Entry Form. I understand Mrs Jager had failed to do so when she entered the WAVA Championships in Gateshead in 1999. When she was randomly selected for an anti doping test, she then declared that she was taking various medication, some of which clearly fell into the Performance Enhancing category as she was subsequently suspended for 2 years. I wonder if she did list all her medication when entering the World Championships in Sacramento, 6-17 July? Looking through those results, 27 women from far flung parts of the World paid all their own expenses to run in the 100m there, 16 advances to the semi-finals, 8 to the final. Mrs Jager won the silver medal and she advanced to 4th in the 200m. She won her pole vault and also won a gold medal as part of the USA W60 4 x 100m. My heart sinks for all those women.
To MARY;
I’d be glad to take a test …..because I have nothing to hide. Then I’ll spit in your face after I pass it with flying colors. I’m tired of all the rationalization and excuses for people who have failed a test. Too freakin’ bad ! The IRS says I’m still responsible for my taxes; even if I received erroneous data( interest or dividends); so we’re also responsible for what goes in our bodies. Here’s a question for you Mary……what do you think the person whose records Kathy broke feels like at this moment ???
There is some exaggeration in some posts above. There should be hardly anyone left when testing was done more often? I don’t believe that, athletes are on the healthy side of the population. Of course there are many conditions that ask for medicines, but the majority of those medicines are not prohibited by WADA, and for a lot of prohibited medicines as a master you can easily get a TUE. Which illnesses remain that can only be treated by something that is a PED according to WAVA? Not much I suppose.
Another thing is culture. There is much overmedication and in some regions more than in other regions.
What a mess!
Ignorance and delusion abound.
Stop squabbling and go play outdoors!!!
Just got back from playing on south mountain….nothing level about that playing field but it was still Fun! “Do or Do Not” Yoda
Rationalizers and Justifiers for PEDs should start their own T&F association where competitors are allowed to take anything they want and no testing is done.
I don’t want to join.
John, Posts # 2 & # 49 are concise and dead-on!
Apparently, some people have forgotten that they agreed to abide by USATF, USADA and WADA rules when they signed-up for and renewed their memberships.
Folks, if you don’t like the rules, then lobby to have them changed or leave! There are plenty of opportunities for you to compete at all-comer meets, senior meets, state games and for the real studs collegiate meets. And guess what…none of those events have drug testing!
i don’t care whether some is tested randomly or because they look juiced. if they flunk the drug test, they flunk the drug test. test everyone!
In response to a question about why Kathy didn’t get a lifetime ban for a second suspension, I received this note from a WMA source:
This was issued by USADA
“At the time of issuing Kathy Jager’s most recent sanction, USADA was aware that Ms. Jager was previously sanctioned in 1999. Her first offense was before the Code and outside the 8 year statute of limitations, therefore, her most recent violation could not be treated as a second violation. See World Anti-Doping Code Art. 10.7.5 and IAAF Rule 40.7(e). Pursuant to the relevant rules each anti-doping rule violation must take place within the same eight (8) year period in order to be considered multiple violations.”
T o whs your Daddy.
My question is WHO RAISED YOU? that you can print the words “I would spit in your face ” to a woman?
Take a look at yourself. Creepy Computer Tough Guy
My original response to “Who’s your daddy ??” apparently didn’t make it through Ken’s profanity filter.
I’ll keep this one more simple; how would you like it if someone said that to your wife or mother?
Who’s Your Daddy’s comment that he would spit in Mary’s face only serves to reinforce the veracity of her comment that prompted Who’s Your Daddy’s response: that he and others would who judge women athletes on the basis of their appearance are nothing better than schoolyard bullies.
I share Mary’s opinion, Who’s Your Daddy, so spit in my face instead.
Bridget from post #45 has a very good point. One wonders if Kathy listed her medications in her WMA entry. If she did not, she can’t claim ignorance caused her to leave it blank. Listing the meds may have targeted her for testing. There’s little doubt that she was taking the meds at the time of the world meet because a previous comment said her meds were legal only five months prior. That makes you believe she had been taking them for a minimum of five months before the national meet. If I were one of those women who she beat in any event I’d really be pissed off.
This topic is now totally played out. And I am not sitting up any longer waiting for Mary Harangue Harada logically now to vent her spleen on her friend BMAF Secretary and IAAF Masters Committee member Bridget Cushen.
Leave her alone… she has a medical condition… I hope i am still kicking when the “powers to be ” develope medical issues…. I want to be there and rub there nose in it…..what ever happened to common sense……this is rediculous.
Simple solution to end all drug/medical problems would be for WADA/USADA to develop testing that could be administered to all athletes when picking up packets for WORLDS and NATIONALS and have test results prior to competition. This eliminates all violating athletes before contaminating the competition results.
Sorry, this would also eliminate all of you experts that focus on what other athletes are doing or their physique, instead of on your own performance.
Me? I could care less what others are doing, give the cheaters or those over-focused on winning the medals. I, along with many others will focus on our own performances, that’s what counts…
To Tony Plaster;
I was raised by my parents; and yeah that’s how I speak to anyone who gets in my face. I don’t care if it is a women….after all….they’ve got equal rights. Bottom line…..I’m tired of all the rationalizations for drug use. I agree with a prior post, which said to form your own meets where everything goes. Hey; we have a “pride” meet in SF. Why not a PED meet ?????
And was it from them that you aquired this catchy screen name?
Who’s your daddy ?? said:
“and yeah that’s how I speak to anyone who gets in my face.”
Somehow, I really doubt that. You don’t even have the balls to post under your own name.
And secondly, who the hell got “in your face”? You’re posting from a freaking computer; not having an in-person discussion or argument.
#60 has an interesting idea…. This is more possible than you realize. On site pre emplyment screening has been a fact of life for large constuction projects for a long time now. First question a Buisness agent asks befor sending someone out is “Can you pass……” First 2 hrs on job are at the trailer.
DITTO, Bob Banhagel . . . leave the lady alone!
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