Long jumper, 90, goes 16-1! Best masters WR in history?
Actually not. After a masters mole alerted me to a listing on the WMA records page for a long jump mark of 4.92 (16-1 3/4) by 90-year-old Ilmari Koppinen of Finland in 2008, I did some poking around. Turns out that Ilmari actually triple-jumped 4.92. (But it’s far short of the listed M90 WR of 6.59 (21-7 1/2) by Kizo Kimura of Japan in 2001.) I found the Finn’s TJ mark on the Eurovets records page. But for the half-hour I was searching, I was half-hoping that maybe Illmari was the real Flying Finn. On the Age-Graded Tables, a long jump of 4.92 for a 90-year-old is equivalent to an Open jump of 14.98 (49-1 3/4), or an age-graded percentage of 167 percent. Not too shabby. But the really amazing part: Ilmari’s M90 mark would be better than the M75, M80 and M85 long jump records. Now we’re talking Beamonesque. Illmari also holds hurdle records, as documented by this great account in his local newspaper. But a 16-1 long jumper at 90? Sorry, Charlie. WMA, please fix.
Ilmari Koppinen is making a bid to become the oldest hurdler on record.
Here’s what the WMA records page looks like at the moment:
Here’s what the Eurovets records page shows for the triple jump:
3 Responses
Yes, Ken. It’s an error. 4,92 is the triple jump result, not long jump. Here you find it:
http://www.vaasanvasama.fi/files/sunnuntain_tulokset.txt
Kolmiloikka is Triple Jump in finnish:
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmiloikka
A kiss
A reflection about Age Grade Calculator
I’have seen the 167%!! But surely could be a mistake by the eurovets website (in that list there are several mistakes).
By the way… Age Grade Calculator…
In our italian web site, we are questioning about the funcionality of this calculator, that we call “AGC”.
We have studied it, and we have noted that the “performance curve” is particularly “strange”…
I mean: it seems that till the age of 70/75, the conversion-curve is almost parallel to the age-curve (so, if i took the SAME result and verify it YEAR-BY-YEAR in the AGC system, we could note a regular improvement by 35 to 70, with little deviations).
After 70/75 we have seen a deep rise: so all the results (in spite of all, after 90), seems to be overestimated than the previous results.
We have the chase of the W95 Gabre Gabric: 4,51 in shot put on sunday 07: 125,25%. Gabre was at ’36 Berlin Olympics, in which arrived 10th in discus throw.
So: how is possible that TODAY she could obtain an higher AGC than she was a world class athlete (with reasonable less workouts… I think)?
With those AGC results (125,25) she had won the olympic gold with 20 meters on the second!!
With this, according to me, the AGC must be set in the age over 75-80, and in spite of all over 94/95 in wich the curve tends to infinity, with results out of reasonable parameters.
So: the 4,51 of Gabre Gabric, probably must correspond to a world class results (near 100%… how I’ve said before, she is an Olympic athlete!!) but not to a Martian result!!
Excuse me for my awful english… 🙁
Andrea B.
Watch out for the Finnish long jumpers at WMA Lahti 2009 anyway.
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