Throws czar calls weight pentathlon record a bit short
Jerry Bookin-Weiner, USATF Masters throwing events coordinator, writes: “Further checking on the scoring of the American WP record that Ken Jansson set in Texas towards the end of July shows that it was not, in fact, a record. The meet management must have been using an old scoring table or an older version of Hy-Tek that gave incorrect scoring. The correct scoring for his performances should have been 3923, not the reported 4283 that you carried on your blog.” I haven’t checked with the principals, but this appears to be a collapse of quality control on the part of meet management. Sorry to see this, especially on the day of the USATF Masters WP Championships in Spokane, Wash.
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Before accusing “meet management” of a “collapse of quality control” in a public forum you ought to check with the “principals.” If you had you would have learned that the fault is not with them but surely with Hy-Tek.
It would not be the first time that the Hy-Tek program had serious bugs in it. It certainly did when I was the meet director for the 2003 National Weight Pentathlon Championships in Fort Collins, CO.
We only caught it because a large number of the competitors had very recently competed at the WMA Championships in Puerto Rico and the scores they were getting didn’t jive with those from Puerto Rico and they pointed it out to us.
Let’s point the fingers where they should be pointed — at the Hy-Tek people who have produced a program that is less than ideal. Maybe someone out there can step up and design a more user friendly and consistently accurate meet management computer program.
I understand there were problems with the latest Hy-Tek version in Orono as well that only those directly involved with the results would be aware of.
We were under the opinion that we were using the latest data and Hy-tek systems available. This is upsetting that we get accused of “a collapse of quality control”. The Dallas Masters Track and Field Club works very hard at running a quality meet. Maybe there is a lack on your part of making sure that what Hy-tek is issuing is proper and correct.
I caught it when I checked the two different ways of calculating that I know of.
If you used Ken’s exact age, 49, then you get that score. Meaning the age-graded adjustment. Since my little brother has the record, he went through the same confusion at the weight pentathlon in 2003.
And we all at a ball at Spokane yesterday.
What happened to Paul Barrett? Wasn’t he supposed to throw 40-44 at Spokane?
The latest Hy-tek program we were using was the correct soft ware by Hy-tek reversed the age grading without informing us that they had done so. This caused the weight pentathlon to be graded on one year increments and running events to be graded in 5 year age groups. This has now been corrected and we will send out correct results this week.
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