2010 world records by Americans listed; any legit marks missing?
To help the USATF Masters T&F Awards Committee decide who should get top honors, a list is prepared showing which Americans set world indoor and outdoor records in 2010. The list posted here is unofficial, of course. Records aren’t gold-plated until approval comes at the USATF annual meeting. But this list deserves close scrutiny. Does it miss any marks? Are any U.S. athletes left off who set world age-group records? Happily, Bernard Lagat is noted. (Yeah, yeah, I know. He doesn’t do masters track. He’s 35 — masters age — but is good enough to set American open records.) Too bad he’s not in the running for masters age-group awards at the Dec. 1-5 annual meeting in Virginia.
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Does anyone know what is going on with Douglas Kalembo’s sub 50 400 by a 50 year old?
Mr. Kalembo was,is my Roger Banister of the 400 meters. If he can break 50 at age 50 so can many others with the right mind set! South Mountain was awesome this am. Have a Great Day All …Keeping it light, Sully
Kalembo issue is under scrutiny. Will share more later.
Brief comments:
1. Don’t know a thing about the Kalembo situation, but I am sure that our ace detective, Mr. K. Stone, will come up with something before the year is out.
2. The obvious missing world mark (other than Kalembo) is the sensational 14.76 100-m dash record for W70 achieved by Kathy Bergen at the Mt. San Antonio College (Mt. SAC) Relays back in April. However, the Awards Committee (of which I am a member) is aware of the situation.
Kathy Bergen’s record, which might be the performance of the year on the track (Neni Lewis probably has the best performances of the year in the throws), reminds me of Monica Joyce’s sensational 16:19.51 in the 5000 last year in W50. That performance was at Mt. SAC.
3. Good to see Bernard Lagat’s name listed for 3 world marks in M35. Judging from the listings at USATF.org, however, he is not being considered for American marks, as his name does not appear there at all.
Just to follow up: Monica Joyce’s sensational 16:19.51 at Mt. SAC last year did not get accepted as either an American or world record; that was my point.
Renee Henderson’s 200m world record was achieved in New York at the Armory where the Track and Field Hall of Fame is located.
Good work, Ken, just question why age-graded numbers are not the same for my 1500M record… 101.5 (WR table) and 102.9 (AR table).
Sabra, Mary Trotto would be the one to ask about age-graded discrepancies on her list.
Ok, Ken.. thanks. Thought it was your list.
Good luck. We need to track down school records which may help.
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I have given up hope of having my AR set for the W 75-79 3000 at the Maine Senior games ratified. The officials took off before signing the paaperwork – thanks so much guys.
For what it is worth – my time was 15:38.98 – the old AR was 7:37.2, set by Bess James in August of 1985.
This is not something that Sandy Paskin can remedy – as no paper work – no record. But it is a chronic problem for masters who set records at small meets even if they are sanctioned but where the officials and meet directors are not accustomed to dealing with the paper work requirements for records. And “for the record” the meet was sanctioned by the Maine USATF association – and they had been notified in advance that I hoped to set a record there. The Meet Director was aware, it was announced, the officials at the start line knew I was attempting to set a record, it was not like it was a surprise to any one.
When USATF officials just pack up and leave after the conclusion of a meet – it makes it difficult for an athlete to get the paperwork filled in. The 3k was the last event of the meet – I had the paperwork with me – and filled in as much as I could do it – but without the officials – it is basically my tough luck. I left the paperwork with the meet director – who knows what has happened – if anything – since then. There has been no update to the AR outdoor records since 8/7 – so I have no clue if Sandy has received the paperwork or if it sits on some desk somewhere in the state of Maine.
as usual my typing needs work – Bess James record was 17:32 – somewhere the 1 got lost when I cut and pasted it.
and I know how to spell paperwork –
I think I run better than I type – or I hope so.
That’s a rough one, Mary. I am afraid the odds are against you. It’s kind of like telling your surgeon right before you go into the operating room that you eat no meat whatsoever and never drink milk.
“Yes, yes, we’ll see that you get the right food after you get back to your room.”
You eventually are wheeled to your room and the first meal they serve you is Salisbury steak, mashed potatoes, peas, and a big carton of milk.
Just as surgeons aren’t going to work with the dietary department, officials at many of the meets we attend do not think that ratifying records is part of the job. Understandable. And at the bigger meets with huge security, imagine saying to the burly security guard who’s blocking your access to the track:
“Sir, I just broke the W75 American record in the 3000 and I would like to get my finish photo as well as the signature of the chief of FAT.”
Right.
I am curious what the age grade would be for my American Record for the Ultra Weight Pentathlon (5872 points).
My indoor M60 pole vault WR was broken twice at the WMA Indoor Champs; first at 4.02m then at 4.05m. I also broke the outdoor WR by vaulting 4.04m at the USATF Outdoor Nat Champs at age 64. The outdoor WR is not shown on the list. Both records were already mine before these improvements.
Neni,
Sorry but there are no age gradings for combined events. However, your score is off the charts. When the age factors were recalibrated for the Ultraweight Pentathlon the aim was that scores be around 1000 or a bit more for the top performances in each event. For the men it seems to have worked in the Throws Pentathlon as the top world record (all men’s age groups) is now the 5044 that Paul Economides reached in Lisle (the American record page hasn’t been updated yet but the WMA page has).
So, your 5872 is now the highest score ever achieved by a man or woman in the Ultra Weight Pent — Jim Wetenhall’s M55 record is in the 5600 range. It is also higher than any score ever achieved by a man or woman in the Throws Pentathlon. It doesn’t take age grading to understand that it is off the charts!
Renee Henderson’s indoor 200m record took place in March of 2010, don’t remember exactly which day, but it was a Master’s and Open meet at the Armory.
Ken,
You asked if the list misses any marks. In the throws I only see a series of marks by Neni Lewis that are missing:
1. AR in the Ultraweight Pentathlon set during the Throws Championships in Lisle, IL in August. It is referenced in earlier posts in this string. It was a massive 5872 points, the highest score, man or woman, ever achieved in a throwing combined event (using the new tables and converting all the old records to the new tables). It was an amazing achievement. It isn’t a WR only because there is no WR recognition in the event.
2. Earlier W50 WRs and ARs Neni set prior to Sacramento and Lisle in the hammer (at the Mid-Atlantic Assn Championships and later at the East Region Championships), weight (at the East Region Championships) and superweight (at the East Region Championships). Like the Ultraweight Pent the superweight is only an AR because there is no WR recognition in the event.
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